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KAM's avatar
Sep 24Edited

“Assuming that I am right in thinking bin Salman does not wish heterodoxy to be punished so brutally, why doesn’t he change his nation’s apostasy laws?... The answer to both questions is internal pressure.”

There’s another answer.

Nothing like “separation of church and state” has ever appeared in Islam, to my knowledge. The closest examples are states in Muslim-majority countries that are strictly-secular, enforced laïcité, without anything like the interplay of religion and public life of, say, the United States.

And the most important reason why no such separation exists, is that unlike Christianity, Islam’s believes in the perfectibility of human nature. Sin is a choice, an external influence, not inherent to the soul. We’re sinners because we sin, and not the reverse.

With the right inducements, therefore, people can NOT sin. It’s up to them, with a little help from their friends, and family, and school, mosque, and state and its morality police.

But the Christian world, for example, believes we are inherently flawed. Not EVIL. But certainly not good, either. We’re “fallen.” A glorious ruin. Nothing straight from the crooked timber of humanity. Or whatever metaphor you prefer.

And so no amount of pressure can make people good. It has to happen by the grace of God, and that grace is not amenable to outside coercion.

The American founders believed this profoundly. The system is not designed to achieve greatness, but to avoid disaster, and especially tyranny, including the tyranny of the majority.

(Note: progressivism shares approximately the same understanding as Islam, on this issue, with approximately the same conclusions in law and policy.)

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Fromafar's avatar

Why is there no "Fatwa" against Barak Obama?

He was born into Islam and chose to leave it as an adult.

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