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Rena's avatar

Yes, but.... when October 7th happened, I was completely horrified and it was obvious that Israel would this time have to overcome all previous hesitations and get into Gaza and get after Hamas and seek to disrupt and destroy its roots and its tunnels and its deadly power. But the first article I published about the situation stated flat out that if the international community actually gave a damn for the innocents of Gaza, who were about to be very much in harm's way, they would allow a temporary encampment outside the zone of conflict where people who were demonstrably and clearly NOT Hamas fighters could shelter and receive food and medical attention. There are actually FAR fewer civilian deaths in Gaza than the Hamas-controlled health ministry would lead you to believe. On the other hand, there are absolutely tragic deaths and injuries that have happened -- the blood is on Hamas' hands first, but on the "international community's" second. Everyone on the planet knows that Hamas' strategy is to use the civilian population as human shields and everyone is very busily playing into it. Which is why the shrieking at Israel is so very loud. No one wants people to start saying well if you are so concerned, why could not a little corner of Sinai be partitioned off temporarily to let these people live through this war and then come back to rebuild....... why couldn't the U.S. and other Arab states help Egypt to temporarily allow a humanitarian encampment? Because no one wants to deal with it -- so much better to keep up the line that it is all Israel's problem.

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"Women, children, the elderly, and the peaceful men of Gaza are trapped in an invidious, evil situation. They are (mostly) the unwilling subjects of Hamas"

This is a standard homily recited without any basis at all: polls conducted by two Palestinian public policy institutes in the West Bank, in Nov 2023 and March 2024, show just over 70% of Palestinians support the Oct 7 Hamas atrocities:

https://www.jns.org/three-in-four-palestinians-support-hamass-massacre/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/poll-over-70-palestinians-still-maintain-hamas-correct-to-commit-oct-7-atrocities/

To this can be added the numerous videos of Palestinian civilians celebrating the Oct 7 attacks on that day and the popularity of Hamas torture and murder videos on Telegram channels.

There could not be more complete evidence of the widespread support of the Palestinian population for the October 7 atrocities and their perpetrators. This cold, hard fact from statistical science should, but will not, put a crimp on another homily, the "two-state solution": what sort of leaders would a Palestinian state elect after these survey results?

Similar efforts were made in the past to excuse the bulk of the German population of complicity in Nazi crimes. They were completely exposed in Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's "Hitler's Willing Executioners" which showed how widespread was German popular support for the murder of Jews. In some towns, a few weeks before the end of the war but after German troops had left, the local population took it upon itself to murder any surviving Jewish slave laborers before Allied troops arrived.

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